Shorthand Position Available in Great Britian

I received this message from Gary who is DESPERATE to find a shorthand writer! I don’t know how else to “get the word out” other than this site! If anyone is interested, please e-mail him!


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Dear Marc

I have desperatly been seeking a 100wpm + shorthand PA for one of my logistics clients in Essex. No success so far so I am enquiring to possible sources such as your own.Any ideas?

Thanks & Regards

Gary Hunt

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  1. That's true, but I was thinking more that a modern day boss might prefer to use one of those hand held mini-recorders so that he or she can dictate anytime.  Any thoughts on those?  Where I work, the only time any voices are recorded is during meetings where minutes are taken.   I'm also wondering how a modern day boss would even know how to use a stenographer in a useful way.

  2. Good point.  We Gregg writers often lament the lack of stenographers in the work field, but if they were out there, would they be used?  I could type a business letter faster than calling in a secretary and dictating–and probably do a better job.  Same goes for recorders…why record?  Just type.   Regarding steno machines, do they really clickity clack?  I assumed they were silent since they're used in court.   ________________________________ Shorthand, isn't it about time?

  3. Stenotype machines are, for the most part, very quiet. I managed to get to about 120 before giving it up. The keys do make some noise and long finger nails will click a bit on the keys.

    Setting up a steno machine for dictation, however, was a royal pain. When I was a secretary, my boss frequently would bolt over to my desk and start rattling something out. As it was, I barely had time to grab a pen and a shorthand pad; getting to my shorthand machine would have taken too long.

    As for it being faster to type than dictate: Dictating is a skill much like learning to take dictation is a skill. Experienced dictators can go at a really good clip, much faster than they can type. By dictating, it frees up the boss for more-important tasks, like golfing. Besides, it's the secretary, not the boss, who generally needs to clean up the grammar and any other errors.


  4. JohnSapp wrote:

    >Good point. We Gregg writers often lament the lack of stenographers in the work field, but if they were out there, would they be used?

    Not to mention that a lot of feminists thought it the height of male
    chauvinism to require a lady to sit there at their beck and call to take
    down every word they say.

  5. Ha, ha!  Well they still sit there at my beck and call, but it's just that they are making coffee instead of writing down what I say.  Just kidding!       (…but they really are) ___________________________________ Shorthand: isn't it about time?

  6. Now come on guys!  In any job every employee is hypothetically at the immediate servic e of their employer. Feminists are more astute than one would give them credit. There is nothing demeaning about a stenographer's job per se, it is the lack of respect on the part of some bosses, and the expectation that they perform menial tasks that was degradating. Equally unfair were salary discrepancies between male and female stenographers. Being politically correct, and by that I mean treating every  person with respect, fairness and equity and not using any class or person as the object of jokes based on stereotypes, cautions those in the advantaged class (in this case we guys) not to use those in the disadvantaged class (in this case female stenographers) in our attempts at humor. Sapp, make your own coffee and some for your secretary while you are at it!    DOC

  7. I had one interview in the late 1970s which was for the position of Secretary to the President of a company which shall remain nameless. The first question wasn't about my typing or my shorthand or my ability to juggle 12 different tasks at once. The first question was, "Can you make GOOD coffee?"

    My answer was "Yes."

    I guess I wasn't buxom enough or blonde enough or female because I didn't get the job. By the conclusion of the interview, it was clear he wanted someone he could chase around the desk.

    I hope he got his wish. . . and a divorce!



  8. In 1990, I didn't apply for a job because one of the other secretaries in the department told me I wouldn't get it, despite the fact I'd been doing it for 4 months satisfactorily as a temp. She said "I overheard your boss say to mine that he really liked you but would never hire you full time because you are a man."   I didn't have to make coffee, or take shorthand, but obviously I wasn't appropriately decorative.   I'd never had to take a letter or anything else in shorthand, but it was listed as a requirement on the advert for the job. The woman who got the job had Pitman, but about 8 months later told me she had never had to use it.

  9. I wonder  if they wanted someone to know shorthand so they could take down phone messages, notes or tasks from the boss, and just in case.  That's about all I use it for in my current job (and that's why I'm learning anniversary since I can write sloppy and inaccurate no biggy–I never have to give the entire phone message to someone just the highlights). Oh, it's not a requirement in my job, even in jobs where I took minutes for meetings it wasn't a requirement–but I used it. Debbi

  10. Mr Sapp, I don't think they advertised for shorthand because they wanted a woman, but because it had always been asked of the secretary of the CEO of that firm. I don't think anyone asked me or the CEO whether he wanted someone with shorthand. If they asked him, he said "yes" because at that time and place it was a status symbol. If your "girl" could take shorthand, then you were on a higher rung than if your "girl" didn't, or, of course, if you didn't even have a "girl".  It was hard to swallow that the old boys network still believed that, but one of the executives at that company, a woman, told me that.   Debbi, phone messages and to do lists are what I use my shorthand for, too, but I'm beginning to use it for minutes, and it sure makes it faster and easier to get it all down.

  11. Alert!  Alert!  Apparently it was noticed that I took the minutes in Gregg; I just got asked to take minutes for a top level meeting–as in TOP.  How scary!  Should I tell them I only write like 20 wpm in Gregg?  I better bring a tape recorder for back up.   ____________________________________
    Praise the Lord, I saw the light line!

  12. << Should I tell them I only write like 20 wpm in Gregg? >>  lol.   Ah, noooo… John I'm not sure where you are at, but If you know most of shorthand or all of it, look in the dictionary for words that you'll be using and practice those.  I do that for my jobs.  then your wpm may go up a bit during the meeting.  A tape recorder is great for back up.  I did that in another just in case (they had a huge tape recording set up — okay it was government).  But then I got so fast at transcribing my notes vs. listening to the tapes (using a diction machine too) that I just had them for back up but never transcribed from them. Debbi

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