Two Questions

I have two questions. What do the wavy lines underneath shorthand outlines in DJS indicate?
AND….in Lesson 38 Reading and Writing Practice  Paragraph  342.   I’m stuck. Help please.
Dear Mr. [something]….

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  1. Shorthand outlines of last names seem to stump me. Thanks for your help.   So…since I am using pen and paper when transcribing  shorthand outlines from the DJS book, do I have to capitalize all words "wavy lined"? Is it alright to underline those words for emphasis when transcribing to long hand?

  2. Transcribing in longhand, one would probably underscore the shorthand that appeared with wavy underscore. In contrast to above, I use underscore in Gregg to indicate underscore in final copy and wavy line in Gregg to indicate ALL CAPS in typescript. Brian

  3. Ms. Letha, thank you for taking the time to post. Right now I'm on brorrowed time, so it'll take me another day or two to sit down and read everything. But I wanted to add quickly before logging out that the wavy lines underneath the shorthand outline I was referring to is in the DJS Lesson 30, pages 167-169.   It's interesting that the DJS doesn't acknowlege or explain the use of the wavy underlines at all. Thanks goodness for this site.  

  4. In the Diamond Jubilee book I'm borrowing, Lesson 30 is on pages 142-147. Paragraph 273 is a reading and writing practice called Conversation Check List. It gives five pointers for getting people to enjoy conversations with you, (1) Listen carefully, etc. Each of the five pointers are underlined, then a few sentences of explanation follow. The underline of the first pointer is not perfectly straight; it is kind of squiggly. Is that the one you mean?

    Praise the Lord, I saw the light line!

  5. Ahh!  Lesson 30!  Gotcha!    Yes, you are very correct.  The wavy lines shown in this lesson are definitely used to indicate an underscore.  As I mentioned in the above reply, wavy lines are primarily used for length of expressions AFTER symbols but can also be used for underscoring UNDER symbols as long as you can differentiate the two without doubt.   No, it is probably not discussed in the book for several reasons:  1) the authors assume that their illustration for underscoring should be self-explanatory.  It was the teachers job to elaborate and board-quiz the students on identifying random parts of a shorthand exercise with wavy line underscoring.  Try it yourself.  In other words, as you read through a shorthand exercise from your book, just for fun, underline all of the subjects or the verbs…get the idea?  This is how the teacher would also test the students.  It was more of a participation grade.  Therefore, it's best that the authors have done this, simply because it gives the teachers the freedom to explain the underscore and then turn around and use it for the benefit of the class in their teaching of shorthand.    2)  Years ago, when underscoring was a classroom activity, discussions and the variety of uses were so detailed, the teacher may have had to quiz and illustrate for several class lessons or more.  I think I covered most of the wavy line classroom discussions but I'm sure I didn't cover all of the underscoring guidelines.  Maybe another time.  However, when you have more time, please review the guidelines I sent you.  I know you'll find them all quite useful when used along with your shorthand.   If you still would like help with Lesson 38, I would be happy just to read it off to you over the phone.  Call me if you'd like…719/250-7184.  If you'd rather me just type it out, I will be happy to do so.   As usual, I have been long winded and apologize.  I hope this helps a little.   Ms. Letha  🙂  

  6. Just for clarification, my DJS Lesson 30, page 167-169, paragraph 268, is a reading and writing practice called Conversation Check List too. Each of the five pointers are have a wavy/squiggly underlined. There isn't a straight underscoring line or ish-t" joined repeatedly…the ends are pointed.    I could transcribe into longhand a wavy/squiggle underline as a straight underline and NO need capitialize the outline, right? It is standard? DJS, at least the one I'm borrowing, seems to lack anything to indicate one should ALL CAPS an outline when transcribing.   Ms. Letha, please scan those examples. I'm such those examples will be useful to all.    BTW, I  have completed Lesson 38 Reading and Writing Practice  Paragraph  342. I only needed help with Mr. Owen's name. I'm transcribing Lesson 40.   Thank you for your offer. I will call, post or e-mail if there is something not understood.

  7. Hi Taaliba,   Your words:  I could transcribe into longhand a wavy/squiggle underline as a straight underline and NO need capitialize the outline, right? Yes.  The 5 points in your book are underlined to show emphasis on each separate point (or subject) beginning the paragraph.  After the emphasis, further explanation about that subject is continued.     This means, when you transcribe it (if written with pen), you can:            1)  Use a straight line to underscore the words WITHOUT using ALL CAPS (only the first letter of the first word needs capitalization).  This will get enough attention without being too dramatic in your writing.    If you are typing,            2)  Instead of underlining, italicize when transcribingOnly the first letter of the first word needs capitalization.   It is standard?  Yes.  Underlining and italics are commonly used to show emphasis without yelling!  ALL CAPS usually tells the reader you are having a QUICK BURST OF EXCITEMENT!  DJS, at least the one I'm borrowing, seems to lack anything to indicate one should ALL CAPS an outline when transcribing.  Yes, correct again.    ALL CAPS isn't normally used during business dictation.  However, it is occasionally used with  1) Expressions (including anger)  and  2) To grab your attention dramatically (HAPPY, SAD, ANGRY…).     I will look for the "underscoring" and "wavy line" examples and try to fax them this weekend.   Talk later.  Ms. Letha  🙂  

  8. Here's part of the Student's Transcript for Lesson 30.  You can see that just because the shorthand book shows underscoring, it does not mean you must transcribe it as an underscore.  Instead, the key itself uses italics for each point showing emphasis.  Take care now.  Bye, Ms. Letha

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  9. The files for the samples I wanted to post must be too big.  Something keeps buzzing at me after I try to attach the files.  Each file is only 1 scan.  Don't know what I'm doing wrong.  Oh well, I know you have your samples now but I was also hoping to post them for this subject matter.  Have fun with the samples I emailed.  Ms. L  🙂

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