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1.I am in a very begining stage as I am intrested in learning shorthand after finding a used book ( Gregg Diamond Jubilee series) and it seems that there are several editions So please help me to choose which one I should start with.( anniversery or Pre or this one or what should I do)
2 . Which kind of notebook should I start with
3. which Pen should I use
4. I am a lefthanded

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  1. I didn't look at the links above as I'm too lazy to copy and past into the address bar, so if it's repeated below, sorry…   1.I am in a very begining stage as I am intrested in learning shorthand after finding a used book ( Gregg Diamond Jubilee series) and it seems that there are several editions So please help me to choose which one I should start with.( anniversery or Pre or this one or what should I do)   Diamond Jubilee is a good series.  If you are just interested in writing it, then this is a good one, and you can get pretty fast (average 120 but up to 175).  I started with that and then moved to Anniversary to write faster and just learn it.  I actually had the college versions which had a little bit bigger vocabulary, so it might have been a little harder for me, but don't know if it matters too much.   2 . Which kind of notebook should I start with   Any steno book that is gregg ruled.   3. which Pen should I use   What ever is most comfortable for you and gives you the easiest writing ability.  Most gel pens bleed through so you will go through steno books if you use those.  I found that most ball points are fine for me.  Find one that is comfortable and you don't use too much pressure using.  You will be writing a lot.   4. I am a lefthanded   Doesn't matter.  There are left handed shorthand writers.  One of those posts above may refer to a post where we talked about it.  I've saw it in a picture somewhere too. 

  2. To add to that: you can write Gregg on any kind of paper…well, anyTHING, really.  Lined paper can help, however, especially for beginners.  Wide ruled is better than college ruled, for most people.  Steno books are the traditional standard.  If you e-mail your post address to [email protected] I'd be happy to send you one!  Welcome to the group. _____________________ Shorthand: isn't it about time?

  3. Thank you routine-sibling
    for your help and effort listing message. I am very greatfull Thank u Debbi Avon For the tips And thank u John   But Please note that in my Country we know nothing about steno So we have no steno notebooks even the book I found (Jublie used one) was for a forgeiner and even the salesman couldn;t understand the use of such book.   I will explore the links sent by routine and then revert to u another time   After I sent the message I went through the Anniversery which I found more organised then the Jubilie Please correct me if I am wrong   I am using a Pencil which allowed me to enhance my writing by correcting my hand writting   what I noticed that I have my own handwritting in steno so that i can read it clearly but I am not sure if anyone could read it as I do I mean is that going this way like any handwritting everyone has his own?

  4. Which Shorthand Should I learn – link from above, which is a good one to see if you haven't.   Actually you don't need to correct your outlines.  If you ever take "dictation" where you are writing what someone says, you will not erase.  You will put a line through the incorrect outline and write the corrected one–much faster.  And you probably won't have time to correct (maybe).  Of course you can use anything to write with. Which Pen – link from above, if you haven't saw it, you might want to review it. Pen cap: on or off? – link See message 69 for an example of a "steno" pad and what it looks like.   Writing between the lines – link on paper and even if you don't use a steno pad, you can find something that would work. Center Ruled Pads – link with more info on pads.   Good luck! Debbi    

  5. > After I sent the message I went through the Anniversery which I found more organised then the Jubilie Please correct me if I am wrong

    Yes, lots of us like how clear and well-organized the Anniversary book is. You might really like the 1916 ("Pre-Anniversary") edition for similar reasons—and it's more concise.

  6. Oh I was thinking, if you want to erase, you can.  However, what I do is give myself 3 tries at an outline, if after the 3rd I don't make it, I just move on.  I don't want to spend too much time on an outline and figure I'll get it eventually.  This is when I'm copying straight copy like a letter.  For word outline reviews, I will copy it for 2 lines (from the outside edge to the center line), so that could be 3 or it could be 15 depending on the size… What I do is just put a line through the incorrect outline (sometimes 2 or 3 lines, but not more then that as it slows me down). Debbi

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