Universal Gregg Shorthand?

I have had a problem in locating available Gregg shorthand books/materials for the French language and I was wondering if anyone has compiled a universal Gregg shorthand method for other languages that are transcribable using the IPA system of sounds?
Thank you.

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  1. I've never heard of a universal Gregg, and I have a hard time imagining such a thing.

    Gregg consists of about 24 shapes (plus minute variations and markings to make it IPA-complete for English). That's down from 40+ from the standard IPA (English) list. The reason for the reduction is bleeding-edge efficiency; the shapes are designed to vary minimally, and they're arranged specifically for English phonemic patterns—to blend into each other efficiently. In other words, Gregg is a "0% fat" representation of English. To add more shapes for more phonemes wouldn't serve it well.

    Maybe I've misunderstood, but I'd keep hunting for the French editions.

  2. > I've found the GSH dipthongs for English, is this what you mean by the minute variations?

    Sorry, I'm not sure what GSH dipthongs are.

    I mean since the basic 24-element set is too small to cover all the English phonemes, slight changes to those elements are made to imply the rest of them.

    Examples: the sound "x" is written as an "s" shape with a bit of a forward direction. A short sounding vowel is distinguished from its longer version by a little curve mark beneath. "th" in "three" is distinguished from "th" in "the" by a tiny forward-downstroke beneath. And I-A/E-A dipthongs are expressed by a dot or tiny circle inside the basic "a" shape.

    Many of those variations are usually skipped for efficiency, and context resolves the ambiguous outlines.

    I wanted to convey that all that symbolic reduction and economy—the liberty to omit all that information and use just a couple of dozen well-matched shapes—is, as I see it, what makes Gregg fast.

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