Hello Everybody


I’m new to the group and have decided I’m going to try and learn Gregg shorthand because, after seeing Mark Semler’s excellent www.geocities.com/shorthandshorthandshorthand site and the resources available on http://gregg.angelfishy.net/, I think I might have been missing out.

My background is entirely Teeline (120wpm) – from training as a journalist – with a little dash of Pitman.

I’ve had it in my mind – despite what Mr Semler says – that it’s far easier to learn shorthand in a class environment than going it alone. But theories need testing, so I’m going to find out for myself how easy (I fear I might mean difficult) it is. Hopefully, I’ll be eating humble pie in a few months’ time.

So, if anybody has any tips to guide my on my foray into the wonderful world of Gregg, you’d find a very grateful recipient on the other side of the shorthand fence.

Best wishes to you all.


I also run a website dedicated to shorthand (mainly aimed at journalists in the UK, Australia and NZ) and if the group wanted some dictation files from my site (the name of which I’m not mentioning here because I have a great dislike for spammers) please say and I’ll get them uploaded to this group (if I can work out how to do that).

(by shorthandworld1 for everyone)

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  1. Welcome, Laurence: here is my tip on learning Gregg.  When I am stumped by an outline, instead of giving up right away and whipping out my dictionary, I try to master the feeling of frustration and force my brain to wrap around the unfamiliar word by exploring a new dimension of perception.  I take a deep breath, squint slightly, and slowly trace the outline with my eyes.  I assure myself that somewhere in that foreign figure a word lies hidden, and when I give my brain the chance to process at its own pace, the meaning is often revealed after a few tries, without the help of a dictionary.   I think of this method of reading Gregg as "feeling" the outline, and although I'm no expert, I suspect that learning to be patient with strange outlines is key to becoming a skilled reader.   P.S. – You can't hide your site from us!  I've posted it in the "Anything Goes" section of the group (I happen to be a member).   ______________________________ Praise the Lord, I saw the light line!

  2. Thanks for such a warm welcome to the group. At Ms Letha's request I've added a link to some sound files which might be of use to members (seemed sensible as my space limit on MSN is 3mb, which is not a huge amount). And thanks for your advice on my Gregg studies – I think I will set out to learn S90.


  3. There's a handy program called Drill Machine that helps you make your own dictation files… it's a text window that lets you set the wpm, then selects each word at that speed so you can read and record it. I know Gregg likes to do the magical 1.4-syllable word, but it's a whole lot better than rehashing the same dictation ten times, and gives you a better chance to practice your burst writing 😉

    And welcome to Gregg, Shorthandworld! As someone who's forayed into Teeline, I must say that at first, the differences are difficult to get the hang of (especially the s circle in Teeline which is an e/i in Gregg). But you'll eventually be able to separate the two easily, even moreso because Teeline has a very symbolic, clean look to it, while Gregg looks like cursive with all the clutter taken out.

    I'm a Simplified writer, but I'll be happy to help you out or even correspond if you'd like!

    Best of luck.

  4. I actually ordered a set of disks from these folks.  I've got a range that go from 70-130.  It's was about $48.00 when convered from the English Pound.  The material is pretty good, and the vocabulary is varied.  Witness statements, statements to planning commissions, statements by the Court, speeches and the like.  Right about now I'm doing just about 100. 

  5. I've not heard of Drill Machine – We'll have to check that one out! Thanks for the tips as well – I'll let you know how I get on.

    As a working journalist – I hope I will be able to tell my Teeline and Gregg apart (I don't won't libel writs for profound misquoting flowing in through the newsroom!).

  6. There was a time in my career when I actually wrote over 140.  (I learned Series 90 but made the jump to Anniversary shortly after I started).  I have just recently started refreshing, so I'm feeling pretty good about the 100 wpm.  I'm amazed at how rusty my writing is.  I can read shorthand like print, but it's making the head and hand work together again that's proving to be the biggest challenge. 

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