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  1. Michael, good work on the "keeping it current" — though for YouTube, I would use the "oo" since it represents "you".   As for the periodic table, Gregg Reporting Shortcuts has a section on chemical symbols and terms.  I'll try to pdf the pages illustrating those items.    As technology has progressed, some of the terms are ripe for abbreviation.  The biggest problem nowadays happens to be acronyms.  Ugh.   You are going to be quite a formidable shorthand writer. 

  2. Cool!

    I'd use the initials rather than actual words for the chemicals. After a few classes, that's how you think of them. Maybe a diacritical to indicate "chemical". I think, though, that the smaller shape of the actual letters works better in formulae — keep it all on one line. I used a slightly modified version of the Roman alphabet, one my lab partners could figure out iff they had to.

    Which branch of engineering are you in? You'd need all sorts of measurements, and the physical constants and invented numbers. (Still get nightmares about Fanning/Moodie charts.)

  3. Thank you for the technical ones. I had to do something similar when I took minutes for our technology manager.  I had to figure out software and hardware. Those two I remember, can't remember what else.  DJS dictionary had computer or at least compute, so that was helpful.   Luckily Data was used in the first few chapters of anni functional method (I switched versions without knowing it–this site wasn't in existance) so I knew that one (not in the same way of course, but still worked LOL). Debbi

  4. I really appreciate your sharing this document. Quite some years ago, I had the daunting tasks of developing a scientific guide for a brand of ABC shorthand. Having such a guide as this would have helped tremendously.

    Thanks again.

  5. Wow! Looks like they had someone who actually knew something about chemistry doing that. (Unlike the science reporter for Ottawa's paper in the 1980s, who didn't know there's a difference between silicon and silicone. A science reporter should know!)

    Looking at them further, I don't know if I'd have enough confidence in them. So many similar shapes, and at least with prose a sentence doesn't make sense if you interpret it wrong. Would a reporter know the subject well enough to know if what he transcribes make sense?

  6. If you read the print before the shorthand, it speaks to the fact that the person using this type of notation should be familiar with the terminology and the processes — the outlines are abbreviated because they are meant for folks who would do that kind of technical reporting.  The utilization of the forms is left up to the writer to determine the frequency of the vocabulary that would lend itself to abbreviation. 

  7. For "www" since I've had to write this phrase at school, I do the outline which is "World War" since I never ever use that… it's a W with a reverse circle surrounding it.

    For ".com", ".net" etc, I do a period tick with the first letter of the ending under it.

  8. Gregg Reporting Shortcuts recommends using the shorthand version of the chemical symbol. So "aluminum" will be "Al", etc. Exceptions are carbon ("right s – e") and helium ("e"). The full names are written using reporting shortcuts, according to the abbreviating principle, for example:

    1. arsenic: a – r – right s
    2. barium: b – reversed a – m
    3. bismuth: b – e – left s
    4. bromine : b – r – o
    5. boron: b – o – r – n
    6. carbon: k – r – b
    7. chlorine: k – l – o
    8. calcium: k – a – l – left s
    9. nitrogen: disjoined n – j
    10. oxygen: o – left s – j
    11. fluorine: f – l
    12. sodium: s – dem blend
    13. silicon: s – e – l
    14. phosphorus: f – o – left s
    15. sulphur: s – u – l
    16. argon: a – g – n
    17. potassium: p – t – a – left s
    18. lithium: l – e – right th

    There seems to be no set agreement on how to write these though. Different reporters have different ways of abbreviating these.

  9. It's not that you have to learn new brief forms, you're just taking your shorthand to a more advanced level — particularly in the technical aspects.  Also, you need to use what works for you.  Shorthand is a mental skill for most intents and purposes.  It's what comes to your mind readily and is easily excuted by the hand that is workable for you.  Gregg is wonderfully flexible.  Just because there's something out there, doesn't mean you need to adopt it.    For anything to be useful to you in shorthand, it must be automatic.  I happen to work in the law biz and I use a lot of that phrasing and many of the briefs.  There are briefs in the military vocabulary that work quite well if you're immersed in that sort of language, but would be dreadful for the general office stenographer or someone who primarily did legal or medical work.  In posting the chemical stuff, I was just trying to show that the bridge has been crossed.  If you'll note, Michael, many of your outlines are similar to those in the reporting shortcuts.  And the internet-related outlines are very useful.  I love the "www" — I still use the world war encircled outline, we may soon need to use it with a superscript 3.  I would have probably joined up Facebook, the transition from the s to the b is quite facile and wouldn't require a pen lift.    Michael, you get snaps for your outlines.  Very well written. 

  10. Anyone with advice about writing webpage addresses? Well I've tried a system. If it helps you than thats good I used that suggestion that the final (com, net etc) should be one stroke because they're usually quite common. www, well yes it just makes me shudder that I'll have to be reminded of it everytime I write a web address.   What i don't know is how to write email addresses. Anyone have a suggestion, that cuts down on unnecessary periods and coms.   http://lisitsa.fileave.com/DSCF3184.JPG>

  11. I like the constructions and the modification of word forms in the phrases of the web addresses.  That's very clever.  It's right out of the reporting phrasing principles.  This is great stuff for the group to be discussing and trading.  The modern vocabulary is very technical in a lot of ways.  You seem to be channeling Dr. Gregg.  🙂

  12. Thanks for the web page ideas!  I like the each line idea.   I'm thinking for the underline (or other unusual symbol), like in the e-mail address, circle it…  Sort of like some punctuation in shorthand, sometimes the comma has been circled.  so any punctuation in a web address or e-mail address could be circled.  I've gotten in the habit of doing that, at least with commas.   For the @ symbol, I don't see why you couldn't use the same symbol.  Again, it's circled so it would be distinct.  And I think it's pretty fast to write anyway.   If you do keep it on a separate line for each part of the e-mail address, it would be easier to read and avoid writing all the dots between them. Debbi

  13. That's a good idea too.   I'd probably get confused, thinking it's a dash or hyphen in the address.  But that's probably just me.   What about file extensions? Like for Excel?  Any ideas?  Word would be easy, even the 2007 docx, could just write doc, maybe a little x mark at the end, especially if you're dealing with older files.  I guess PPTX would be easy to separate… but faster if together, so not sure…

  14. The extensions can be spelled out: xls = right s – l – left s, txt = = t – x; htm = dot – tm blend; html = dot – tm – l, and so on …

    One thing that can get confusing is the slashes in the addresses: for that I would write a double slash. And for the double slashes, I would cross the double slash (just like we cross the parenthesis sign).

    Also, in forming the urls, why not intersecting the k of .com or the n of .net to the end of last stroke? That would keep it neat and spilling down the lines. Hence, a url will in theory fit in one space: u-u (on top of the line), then the main site's name, then the .net or .com intersected to the name. If the ending cannot be intersected, then write it as close as you can.

    Just some ideas.

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