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Since a lot of people are registering and coming on board, could you please introduce yourself? A quick hello would be fine if you are an old-timer!


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  1. I have just begun learning anniversary gregg and found this board two days ago. It's the best group I've observed on the Internet. My mom told we when I was 18 that one skill I better acquire was shorthand. That was 40 years ago. And I've been a writer and editor without this skill for that long. This year I had my comeuppings, though, as I attended several critical meetings and workshops where my wonderful tape recorder was banned. My longhand notes were pathetic, and I never was able to remember all that I had learned. I am now determined to learn the 1929 anniversary version so that I will never experience these hardships again. This board is so encouraging and knowledgeable, and I look forward to contributing my experiences and learning from all of you.

  2. Rehi, everyone. Marc (aka ShorthandMarc) here. I was self-taught in Anniversary and peaked at 150 wpm. I was a secretary/admin for a number of years before getting a second master's in computer science. I also, along the way, worked for McGraw-Hill on the college editions of Series 90.

  3. Hi all, I decided I wanted to learn shorthand a few years ago. So I put an ad in the classifieds asking for a teacher. I then met with a retired secretary once a week at the library for several months and got a good start. This ended when I moved, but I haven't stopped using shorthand. It's fun — but I need more speed to use it as much as I'd like.

  4. I'm self-teaching Anni, and have been for far too long. I just get into a daily routine, then real life takes over again. Advertising for a teacher is a great idea. I started shorthand 25 years ago in high school. If the blondes could learn it in a year, surely I could learn it over March Break. I tried several and chose Forkner. Learned the system but never worked on speed. On and off for several years, including half of TeeLine. Then I found this group and am sticking with Gregg. I'm trying really hard not to recommend it to the kids, 'cause if I do, they won't.

  5. Hey there, I learned shorthand in High School in the Philippines in the late 80's. I let it slide for a while and then decided to pick it up again a year ago when I caught someone inadvertently looking at my confidential notes. I started writing it again mainly just for short words like "the" and "and" but I noticed that it really was way faster to write. Now I'm using it a lot in my journals and notebooks.

  6. Hello, I'm signed up with Multiply now. Will emails from this group still go to my regular email account? I learned Simplified in 1959-60. Used it on-the-job for several years and till use it (mainly brief forms) when taking personal notes.

  7. You can receive emails of the messages to your regular account by clicking on "my account" on top of the page, then selecting "my email alerts". I have turned off for the time being the option to reply to messages via email. If that is something that you want to do, just let me know, and I'll give you more information.

  8. Old timer??
    I was on the old board if that's what you mean.
    And I've been doing shorthand for years. I use Anniversary right now and am still trying to learn the phrases (have the pharse book) and other shrotcuts. But I like this version a lot. I started with a longhand shorthand (Speedwriting) and then moved to Gregg (a symbol shorthand seemed more like an official shorthand). Started with Diamond Jubilee Series as that's what the second hand store hand (book with key). When I decided to learn again, I picked up another book at a second hand store (my DJS long donated back to a thrift store) and found another Gregg book. Turned out to be Anniversary.

  9. Greetings, All!!!!!
    I am new to this group. I am an old pen writer, using Evans s/h. I am just about to complete the Gregg Simplified course. I am also an official court reporter/certified shorthand reporter in Philadelphia. GREAT SITE!!!!

  10. Over the last few months, I've switched from Gregg to learning Evans, and I'd be very grateful for any tips you might have as a practitioner.

    I'm finding Evans to be much more comprehensive: It contains so many blends that words can be formed easily, without the knotted, sound-it-out forms that were giving me trouble in Gregg. With all those extra blends to learn, though, the memory-load is much higher.

    I do love that the one available book on Evans includes study keys for every exercise, so it's much more practical for self-instruction than most other shorthand texts — since that's the situation most of us are in today, having no teacher.

  11. Interesting. I believe Evans was made for self-teaching, so everything is included there. The only thing though is that it is only one book. He didn't publish anything beyond that as far as I know. If you're able to write faster in spite of the extra memory load, and if you can transcribe what you wrote in Evans, then it will be a good choice for you.

  12. Brothers and sisters, I come before you today to confess that I strayed from the path, but now see the error of my ways!

    I tried to learn and use Evans Shorthand for the past several months, but in the end that simply proved to me how deliberate and wise the choices were that went into creating Gregg Shorthand.

    Here are a few of the reasons I've decided Evans is simply too fiddly for me:

    – there are SO many forms and blends to learn; it feels like it contains three times the phonemes in Gregg

    – these shapes are so close to each other—many identical, differing only in position or angle—that writing them at exactly the right slant and length means slowing down a LOT, first to remember which to use, then to make careful strokes

    – some of these strokes start down and backwards to the left (T and D, for instance), which means you ultimately have to read the word backwards—strange to any reader of English

    – position relative to the line adds a blend to the initial consonant (R if above, L below), but this means you can't take notes on just any paper—it must be lined—and, again, you have to be very careful to remember while writing to start the word in the correct place

    – the general movement feels like trying to change direction in mid-air—lots of stopping to double back, to get just the right angle, or to add a dot or space (for I)

    – in a few cases, the system switches from phonetic spellings to the use of strokes equivalent to longhand letters (such as C when sounded as S), which results in a lot of pausing to think, "Which is it here?"

    What has Evans got going for it? Brevity: the additional blends made it possible to write many words with just two or three strokes. It also has strokes for H, Q, W, X, and Y. (I may try to find a way to incorporate these into my use of Gregg.)

    In summary, I've come back to Gregg, and would suggest that there's a reason Evans has been largely forgotten.

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