Outline for “electrical”

I write essentially DJS, but have borrowed a few features and brief forms from Simplified and earlier. One thing has always puzzled me – I don’t understand the logic behind the outlines for “electrical”. I believe the outlines are:

Simplified – e l / c l
DJS – e l / l
Centennial – e l / l

Why aren’t they all e l / c?   Surely a detached “l” means “-lity”.

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  1. "Electric" in Simplified and earlier was written disjoined (e-l)-k. So, for "electrical" you just add the l to the outline. The outline for "electric" was changed in DJS to disjoined (e-l), so again you put an l to make "electrical." Don't look at it as adding a disjoined l, but a disjoined (e-l) with an additional l. Since "electric" has already a k sound, it may be confusing to use another k for the "cal" in "electrical", when an l is just as sufficient.

    1. Thanks for your comments! Although I learned Gregg a long time ago, I am discovering that I didn't learn it thoroughly enough.

      I do see where you're coming from, but it still seems inconsistent. (e-l) is also "electr-" and it's used this way in "electronic", "electrician" and "electricity" in both Simplified and DJS. So shouldn't your argument apply to those words, too? I don't think (e-l)-k for "electrical"could be confused for anything else in DJS onwards.

      1. Before "nic", "cian", "city", there is no other k sound other than the one that is already part of the outline disjoined (e-l) for electr-, so a k is not added to the outline (you don't pronounce "electroc-nic", "electric-cian", or "electric-city"). But in "electrical" there is an additional one. So there are two ways of writing it: in Simplified and earlier, you write disjoined (e-l)-k for the "electric" part and add the l, and in DJS and later, you just add the l. I see your point that adding just the k to electr- would be sufficient, but someone may have transcribed the outline as "electric." The l makes the outline distinctive.

        The real inconsistency across series came when the outline was changed in DJS to eliminate the "electric" phrasing rule that said that a disjoined (e-l) can be used for the word "electric" as part of a phrase. Without that change in the rule, all of this would be mute.

  2. Ah yes, I understand it better now. Many thanks for taking the time to explain all this.

    My speed is really coming on thanks to the reading material and dictation files here! I am very grateful.

  3. Finally…


    I just wanted to point out the importance of the baseline to distinguish between a suffix (/l) and  « normal » form.

    That's all… smiley

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