“th”/”ye” sound after F or V


My DJS manual says that the YE (TH in English I believe) sound is written as a curve that goes up then right, except after R and L, where it goes right then upwards.

But I have trouble following this rule after the F and the V curves, because unless I straighten the end of the F/V curve, I end up with an angle that makes it impossible to draw the YE curve away from the F/V curve without slanting it and making it look like K.

For example, in « arriviez », « pouviez », « enviez », how do you curve your “iez” properly while not making your V look like a straight J (and making “vous m’enviez” look like “vous mangiez” for example)? Why can’t we just write IEZ in the other direction to solve the problem and keep the V really curved?


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  1. Hello,
    the short answer is yes, meaning the “iez” is effectively written in the other direction to keep the V really curved.
    I found at least one example of this in “Études graduées” but there must be many others examples.

  2. Like a comma, the curve of the right s, f, and v is made at the beginning of the stroke, not at the end. The ending of right s, f, and v is mostly straight because it is the continuation of the comma; the ending does not curve horizontally to the line of writing. Because it is mostly straight, you can write the th/ye easily: start by retracing the last part of the v and then curving the stroke to form the ending. Here are some examples in French:

    It just needs practice to write it correctly.

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