None vs Noon

Why is the word “none” written as “n-u-n” in Anniversary and  Pre-anniversary dictionaries and in 5000 Must Used Shorthand Forms.  In compound words “none” is always written “n-o-n”, so I would think that for consistency, as well as to differentiate from “noon”, none should always be written “n-o-n”.  A snapshot from the dictionary appears below.  Carlos and others, please comment.


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  1. Because the pronunciation is different. Here is the phonetic transcription from Oxford (both UK and US pronunciations below):

    1. none and nun: /nʌn/ (UK) or /nən/ (US)

    2. nonsense: /ˈnɒns(ə)ns/ (UK), or /ˈnänˌsens/ /ˈnɑnˌsɛns/ /ˈnänsəns/ /ˈnɑnsəns/ (US)

  2. Yes, Carlos' reply is completely on the mark!  Gregg Shorthand (as well as Speedwriting, Century 21 Shorthand, and others) is based on pronunciation; i.e., it is phonetic writing.  This can be a stumbling block when people are first learning any shorthand system, but it is what makes shorthand "rapid writing."

  3. Pronunciation can not be a guide when we do not know it in the first place.

    For those whose English is a second language, learning Shorthand will help improve our understanding the audible word, our listening, and our pronunciation.

    Those are great reasons to keep learning shorthand.

    Thanks Carlos and Peter. 


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